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	<title>Comments on: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #612 REVIEW</title>
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		<title>By: MatthewMatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...I really liked the Electro story. Interesting twist of the &quot;people hate Spidey&quot; syndrome. But the &quot;drunken&quot; sub-plot...You see, something really didn&#039;t fit. I mean - we all know Spidey has been juiced before, gee, he even fought the motherfriggin&#039; Hobgoblin, when he was drunk (Web of Spider-Man #38 - otherwise stupid story, BTW), so he DEFINITELY should know, when he is or isn&#039;t drunk.

I mean - I was ready to accept it as Pete&#039;s misstep/screw up and move on. He always screws something up, right? But what do we have now? Michelle: first yells at Peter, because he&#039;s eating her food and waltzing &#039;round the appartment naked, then she suddenly starts to be friendly, then swaps Pete&#039;s drink for non-alcoholic beverages, then misuses his NERVES (from seeing an ex-gf) to make him act goofy and giddy, then seduces him in his &quot;drunkness&quot;, sleeps with him...Then, when he thinks he has a hangover (gee, it&#039;s just so stupid, now I&#039;m summarizing it) and thinks he doesn&#039;t remember anything (stupider yet) (BTW - he was so &quot;drunk&quot; he couldn&#039;t remember where and when was he supposed to meet MJ? Gee...), well, THEN she starts acting like a friggin&#039; maniac, pulling out a gun, then she lets HERSELF to be seduced (by Chameleon, but she doesn&#039;t know that - my head hurts), and then after a &quot;breakup&quot; she starts acting like a maniac again, even crashing Pete&#039;s stuff and so on. This seems like Pete lives with somebody, who is VERY seriously mentally ill.

Either Wacker has really bad experience with women or he hasn&#039;t bothered to read the issues at all.

I mean - I can enjoy a slight share of misogyny pretty much as the next guy, but everything has to have limits.

I didn&#039;t really care for the back-up story. Boring and awful art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;I really liked the Electro story. Interesting twist of the &#8220;people hate Spidey&#8221; syndrome. But the &#8220;drunken&#8221; sub-plot&#8230;You see, something really didn&#8217;t fit. I mean &#8211; we all know Spidey has been juiced before, gee, he even fought the motherfriggin&#8217; Hobgoblin, when he was drunk (Web of Spider-Man #38 &#8211; otherwise stupid story, BTW), so he DEFINITELY should know, when he is or isn&#8217;t drunk.</p>
<p>I mean &#8211; I was ready to accept it as Pete&#8217;s misstep/screw up and move on. He always screws something up, right? But what do we have now? Michelle: first yells at Peter, because he&#8217;s eating her food and waltzing &#8217;round the appartment naked, then she suddenly starts to be friendly, then swaps Pete&#8217;s drink for non-alcoholic beverages, then misuses his NERVES (from seeing an ex-gf) to make him act goofy and giddy, then seduces him in his &#8220;drunkness&#8221;, sleeps with him&#8230;Then, when he thinks he has a hangover (gee, it&#8217;s just so stupid, now I&#8217;m summarizing it) and thinks he doesn&#8217;t remember anything (stupider yet) (BTW &#8211; he was so &#8220;drunk&#8221; he couldn&#8217;t remember where and when was he supposed to meet MJ? Gee&#8230;), well, THEN she starts acting like a friggin&#8217; maniac, pulling out a gun, then she lets HERSELF to be seduced (by Chameleon, but she doesn&#8217;t know that &#8211; my head hurts), and then after a &#8220;breakup&#8221; she starts acting like a maniac again, even crashing Pete&#8217;s stuff and so on. This seems like Pete lives with somebody, who is VERY seriously mentally ill.</p>
<p>Either Wacker has really bad experience with women or he hasn&#8217;t bothered to read the issues at all.</p>
<p>I mean &#8211; I can enjoy a slight share of misogyny pretty much as the next guy, but everything has to have limits.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really care for the back-up story. Boring and awful art.</p>
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		<title>By: thekungfukid</title>
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		<dc:creator>thekungfukid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only person who actually liked the Joe Kelly back up story?\ I thought it was excellent actually. Read through it at least 3 times.  I may be biased because I&#039;m a manga fan, although to be fair I think Nimura has his own thing going on and cant say I&#039;ve ever seen a style quite like his in manga.  I&#039;m also of Kelly and Nimura&#039;s &quot;I Kill Giants&quot; ( which is awesome. you should all pick it up).  I was excited to see them work together again and see Nimura get some mainstream exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only person who actually liked the Joe Kelly back up story?\ I thought it was excellent actually. Read through it at least 3 times.  I may be biased because I&#8217;m a manga fan, although to be fair I think Nimura has his own thing going on and cant say I&#8217;ve ever seen a style quite like his in manga.  I&#8217;m also of Kelly and Nimura&#8217;s &#8220;I Kill Giants&#8221; ( which is awesome. you should all pick it up).  I was excited to see them work together again and see Nimura get some mainstream exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperChencho</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperChencho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so sad to see Bailey cheering on the ASM book when he first took over these reviews, then watch as he slowly becomes revolted with these storylines.  Sad indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so sad to see Bailey cheering on the ASM book when he first took over these reviews, then watch as he slowly becomes revolted with these storylines.  Sad indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Spider-Mont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spider-Mont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree about the writing MB, but the art in this issue irritated the hell out of me!!! Terrible art. And I stopped reading the backstory less than halfway in. I feel cheated out of my 3.99.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree about the writing MB, but the art in this issue irritated the hell out of me!!! Terrible art. And I stopped reading the backstory less than halfway in. I feel cheated out of my 3.99.</p>
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		<title>By: persian-spider</title>
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		<dc:creator>persian-spider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this issue was medocre at best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this issue was medocre at best</p>
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		<title>By: Danish Web</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danish Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for the love of...

So now they go back on Peter being drunk and have him just give in to his depression over seeing MJ? And MJ let this happen? Didnt stop to wonder if Peter was down? 

I am beyoned tired of Marvel treating it&#039;s characters, even ones that have potential like Michelle, characters they created to champion the most ABYSMAL era of Spider-Man in years, like idiots. There doing this to their own creations...and why? Are they that bored? Are they that boxed in?

And if Wacker said Peter was drunk after one sip, yet now it turns out it&#039;s just emotional dissarray...well done for lying to your customers and getting them to waste their money.</description>
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<p>So now they go back on Peter being drunk and have him just give in to his depression over seeing MJ? And MJ let this happen? Didnt stop to wonder if Peter was down? </p>
<p>I am beyoned tired of Marvel treating it&#8217;s characters, even ones that have potential like Michelle, characters they created to champion the most ABYSMAL era of Spider-Man in years, like idiots. There doing this to their own creations&#8230;and why? Are they that bored? Are they that boxed in?</p>
<p>And if Wacker said Peter was drunk after one sip, yet now it turns out it&#8217;s just emotional dissarray&#8230;well done for lying to your customers and getting them to waste their money.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you can&#039;t blame a company for making money. If the variants didn&#039;t sell they wouldn&#039;t make them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you can&#8217;t blame a company for making money. If the variants didn&#8217;t sell they wouldn&#8217;t make them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Kerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Kerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good review, haven&#039;t read the issue yet, and I won&#039;t till I buy them cheap off ebay.  My main reason, is I wrote Marvel (actual snail mail) and told them enough with the variant covers.  I gave them till 2010 to stop putting them out, or I&#039;ll stop buying issues from them.  I can&#039;t walk into a comic shop or trade show without being totally confused as to what cover is what?  this whole variant thing to me is worse than the whole die cut, solid gold, bagged/cards, blah blah that killed the comic shops in the 90s.  In 20 years I won&#039;t be able to look back to these issues with any cover recognition...it&#039;s rather stupid and annoying.  I&#039;ll keep my run complete with buying the issues thru ebay in a year or two. But I&#039;ll just buy whatever variant/cover that is the cheapest at that time.  Thanks for nothing Marvel

Sam (Marvel Zombie since the the early 70s)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good review, haven&#8217;t read the issue yet, and I won&#8217;t till I buy them cheap off ebay.  My main reason, is I wrote Marvel (actual snail mail) and told them enough with the variant covers.  I gave them till 2010 to stop putting them out, or I&#8217;ll stop buying issues from them.  I can&#8217;t walk into a comic shop or trade show without being totally confused as to what cover is what?  this whole variant thing to me is worse than the whole die cut, solid gold, bagged/cards, blah blah that killed the comic shops in the 90s.  In 20 years I won&#8217;t be able to look back to these issues with any cover recognition&#8230;it&#8217;s rather stupid and annoying.  I&#8217;ll keep my run complete with buying the issues thru ebay in a year or two. But I&#8217;ll just buy whatever variant/cover that is the cheapest at that time.  Thanks for nothing Marvel</p>
<p>Sam (Marvel Zombie since the the early 70s)</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job posting the variant covers. I added the black cat one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job posting the variant covers. I added the black cat one too.</p>
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		<title>By: stillanerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillanerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Spider-Girl: I think it was primarily because it was the kick-off of the Gauntlet storyline.  If you notice, each time another classic Spidey villain gets a story as part of this &quot;mini-event&quot; they get their own variant.  Of course, the issue with the Rhino coming out in January is going to have THREE VARIANTS in addition to the regular cover.  Utterly ridiculous and an obvious money grab, if you ask me.

As for the review, I felt pretty much the same way.  The whole revelation that Peter wasn&#039;t actually drunk at the wedding (or, at least according to Steve Wacker, he got drunk off one glass of champagne, which means he has the worst metabolism in the history of mankind despite having powers which include self-healing) was an unnecessary addition to the whole &quot;drunken hook-up,&quot; took you out of what was otherwise a pretty good Electro story, made Michelle look even worse than she did before (if such a thing were possible at this point) and pretty much proved the braintrust/webhead never should have bothered with this whole subplot to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Spider-Girl: I think it was primarily because it was the kick-off of the Gauntlet storyline.  If you notice, each time another classic Spidey villain gets a story as part of this &#8220;mini-event&#8221; they get their own variant.  Of course, the issue with the Rhino coming out in January is going to have THREE VARIANTS in addition to the regular cover.  Utterly ridiculous and an obvious money grab, if you ask me.</p>
<p>As for the review, I felt pretty much the same way.  The whole revelation that Peter wasn&#8217;t actually drunk at the wedding (or, at least according to Steve Wacker, he got drunk off one glass of champagne, which means he has the worst metabolism in the history of mankind despite having powers which include self-healing) was an unnecessary addition to the whole &#8220;drunken hook-up,&#8221; took you out of what was otherwise a pretty good Electro story, made Michelle look even worse than she did before (if such a thing were possible at this point) and pretty much proved the braintrust/webhead never should have bothered with this whole subplot to begin with.</p>
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