TIME Magazine’s Eliana Dockterman wrote up a snarky piece regarding Marvel & Sony using Peter Parker instead of Miles Morales as Spider-Man in the upcoming reboot & MCU films.
The Miles Morales rumors are not true, according to Marvel hed Kevin Feige. Is this headline beginning to sound repetitive? The new iteration of Spider-Man, who will appear in the Captain America: Civil War movie before getting his own feature film, will continue to be a high school-aged Peter Parker. This is bad news for fans who were hoping to escape watching the same teenage origin story of Parker yet again.
While tens of thousands of hacked Sony emails are being dumped online, Bleeding Cool has posted a very interesting take on the Spider-Man deal with Sony and Marvel. In essence, Rich Johnston postulates that rumors about a Spidey/MCU crossover in the fall actually led to it happening – and he uses the Sony email hack releases to make his point.
According to Johnston, it started with rumors posted by HitFix’s Drew McWeeney (who once wrote for AICN as ‘Moriarty’) and culminated with email exchanges by Marvel’s Isaac Perlmutter and Sony’s Michael Lynton.
One highlight stood out in particular – an email from Sony subsidiary TriStar’s chairman Tom Rothman, who explained to Sony’s Amy Pascal:
the answer is: YES THEY DO NEED IT, AND I AM TELLING YOU THEY WILL MAKE THE DEAL– not right away maybe, but if they BELIEVE you will never give them the other thing, then they will make the deal for spidy in capt. why wouldn’t they???? trade spidy in capt for hulk/widow/thor/or capt in spidy. fucking STICK. they will fold.
Another interesting thing to take from this is that while Marvel & Sony appear to be communicative and willing to work with one another, Marvel has a very different tone with Fox, who currently has rights to X-Men pictures and also running the Fantastic Four property into the ground. Here’s Marvel’s John Turitzin writing to Fox’s Bob Cohen regarding Variety’s article announcing the Deadpool movie:
I’m writing to you to correct the misimpression left by reporting concerning Fox’s plans for a Deadpool motion picture. According to a September 18, 2014 report in Variety, “Fox and Marvel have slotted Deadpool, their long in development X-Men spin-off for Feb. 12, 2016.” (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/deadpool-release-date-fox-marvel-1201308783/). As you are aware, Marvel has no involvement in the decision to produce a Deadpool film, let alone when that film will be released. The article continues with the falsehood that Kevin Feige is producing the film with Lauren Schuler Donner. Kevin Feige will have no involvement in a Deadpool motion picture, should Fox decide to produce one, and we will not be designating Kevin as an executive producer for any of the films made under the X-Men license (unless we advise you otherwise). We are, however, designating Stan Lee as our executive producer for the upcoming X-Men films of which we are aware are in production (i.e., Deadpool and X-Men: Apocalypse). Additionally, Tom Cohen who was designated as Associate Producer should be removed from any credits.
We can’t determine, of course, the extent to which that misimpression was created or fostered by Fox, but please ask your people to be careful not to imply that Marvel Studios or its personnel are producing any of the X-Men films licensed to Fox by Marvel and to correct any reports that suggest otherwise. Misrepresentations in press reports lead to inaccurate speculation that there could be cross-overs between Marvel Studios produced movies and those produced under license by Fox.
Ouch! There goes my hopes of one day seeing Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine appearing in an MCU film! The Wrap also found another tidbit concerning Marvel, Daredevil and Drew Goddard, who had worked on the Netflix Daredevil series and who has been rumored to heading the new Spidey MCU reboot. From the Wrap:
Before the May 24, 2014 announcement that show-runner Drew Goddard was dropping out of Netflix’s “Daredevil,” things got difficult and litigious for Marvel, Sony and Goddard’s team. “It looks like they are giving us no choice but to litigate this matter,” Marvel TV EVP Jeph Loeb wrote in an e-mail in April. In a followup e-mail, Marvel’s Ike Perlmutter forwards the Loeb e-mail to Pascal and adds even more panic: “Since we spoke on Wednesday, the problem we are having with Drew Goddard is getting even worse…We should both be very concerned about this situation.”
The Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coatesoffers an opinion on what constitutes the “worst Spider-Man story ever.” I politely disagree with the eventual ‘winner.’ The author starts off first by agreeing with i09’s rundown of their four worst Spider-Man stories ever told:
While anxiously awaiting the retconning/re-marriage of Peter Parker, I came across this io9 list of the four worst Spider-Man stories of all time. The contenders are The Clone Saga, The Gathering Of Five, Sins Past and One More Day. I’m not sure if these are in order of awfulness or not, but I agree with the listing—these are all pretty bad.
I know of one person who liked Sins Past, and I know some have enjoyed the Gathering of Five. One of our resident Webheads, Spideydude, is all about the Clone Saga. But in the years since it was inflicted upon us I have never seen someone, aside from Joe “Breaking the Toys” Quesada, who has ever said they enjoyed One More Day. Even most of the vitriolic Parker marriage haters I’ve listened to over the years have have acknowledged that OMD was a terrible story but accepted the poor storytelling as a means to an end.
Coates later makes the choice:
So which of io9‘s four do I dub truly most baleful? My disdain for One More Day is fairly well known, and I feel like, at this point, it’s a little too easy to hate on. I’m going to go with The Clone Saga for the great sin of resurrecting Norman Osborne.
And here is where I politely disagree. While I’ve gone on record, many times, about how bad the Clone Saga was, and about how Norman Osborn never should have been brought back, and about how awful trying to pull a switcheroo on readers as to who the ‘real’ Peter was just for the sake of having a single Peter once more… One More Day was by far the worst transgression in Spider-history. The Clone Saga was a poor choice; a bad idea that went on way too long. It even made me stay away from Spidey comics for over two years. But there has never been a more egregious breach of trust between Marvel and their readers than One More Day, which was done largely to satisfy an EIC’s personal whim. Is it the worst breach of trust in comics ever? I wonder about that a lot. Was One More Day worse for Spidey fans than, say, Dan Didio’s New 52 was for DC fans? And in the end, which was more selfish?
One thing is important to point out here. While you can look at One More Day and The Clone Saga and debate which one ultimately was worse, the root cause for both was the same: editorial trying to bring back a ‘swinging single’ Peter Parker. Both stories also returned Osborns to life. The Clone Saga brought back Norman who, admittedly, was part of some very interesting stories after. One More Day brought back Harry, completely retooled (emphasis on tool) his personality – then quickly forgot about him and sent him away when his stories & subplots tended to be more boring than unbuttered toast.
Many Spider-fans would agree with me when I say that One More Day needs to be addressed, fixed and ultimately thrown back into the creative emptiness from which it was spawned. But what makes me nervous as we approach the upcoming Jonathan Hickman Marvel reboot/non-reboot is the fact that Renew Your Vows is being handled by people of the same anti-marriage mindset that forced One More Day on us in the first place. I suspect it will be used as a blunt force weapon to “show” us why a married Peter just won’t work, despite decades of stories showing us precisely the opposite. Either way, it does make me nervous about what’s coming up. Not that good kind of nervous you get when you see Wanda freaking out during the Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer. No, that kind of nervous that comes from a place of cold dread.
Spider-Man as a character has suffered many wounds over the last seven years. Different teams have tried to forcefully wedge Spidey into whatever role and personality they prefer, rather than what’s natural and sensible for the character. Much of it has been done with all the clumsiness of a toddler trying to hammer a square peg through a circular hole.
We’ll see what Renew Your Vows brings us. The third part of the ‘opus’ Quesada started with OMD? A story that heals all wounds – or makes those wounds infected? I know what I am hoping for, but history tells me what we’re getting. At the end of the day, hope holds the door open and welcomes disappointment.
In particular, Feige suggested that fans should expect more of the character’s comic book comedy in his next incarnation. “When he puts that mask on, in the comics, he has a non-stop wit that’s almost as troubling to the bad guys he fights as his webs and agility. We feel we haven’t really seen that yet.”
“However we spin it, we’re going to try and defy the expectation of what it would mean,” Downey said. “That’s been the directive from jump. But I think that a great job has been done with Spider-Man so far. And I think that the direction that Spider-Man is going to take is exactly what the fans would be delighted to see.”
I’m going to be taking some time off from the site for a few months. Since 1998 I’ve been working on the site to make it what it is today. That’s 17 years this August. Since 2006 I’ve been editing podcasts almost weekly and turned several out a month. I created this place as a hobby and the last few months it’s just felt like a job. I really am just burned out.
Editing the podcasts, updating the front page just haven’t been as much fun as they used to. So I’m going to take some time off. There won’t be any new podcasts recordings this April or May. My goal is to bring the gang all back together this summer in June and start recording new shows. The Crawlspace isn’t going anywhere. I’m still paying the bills to keep the lights on with a few dollars of support from you all of course. I still have some amazing reviewers that will keep the front page going. There will also be news on the front page and you’ll have a back log of 368 podcast episodes to listen to. I’m just tired. I’m also a bit frustrated at comic creators, fellow Spider-sites and fandom in general. I’ll be back in June. After 17 years without a vacation, I’m going to re-charge.
Reported by Deadline Mike Marts has left Marvel Comics as executive editor to join with industry veteran and former Marvel writer Joe Pruett to start AfterShock comics. AfterShock Comics co-CEOs are Facebook’s former Chief Privacy Officer Michael Richter, and Jon Kramer who has a background in Hollywood. Lee Kramer is in as AfterShock’s president, with Silicon Valley investor Jaward Qureshi listed as Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Marts was at Marvel for about a year, where he had had been editing the X-Men and Guardians Of The Galaxy comics and was on Spider-Man for a brief time. The new company AfterShock is currently on build mode. Marts is a 22 year veteran of the American comic industry, beginning as an Associate Editor at Marvel in 1993 with stints at Acclaim and DC Entertainment before returning to the publisher in January 2014 as Executive Editor in charge of the X-Men and Guardians of the Galaxy titles.
“We are going to take it for granted that people know that…”
While speaking to the press at the Avengers: Age of Ultron press junket, Marvel’s Kevin Feige (who earlier confirmed that Peter Parker will be in high school) also confirmed that the new Spidey movie will not have an origin story.
“In Spider-Man’s very specific case, where there have been two retellings of that origin in the last whatever it’s been – [thirteen] years – for us we are going to take it for granted that people know that, and the specifics,“ Kevin Feige, the President of Marvel Studios, told CraveOnline in a one-on-one interview at today’s junket for Avengers: Age of Ultron.
“It will not be an origin story,“ Feige continued. “But, with great power comes great responsibility. It is inherent to who his character is. But we want to reveal it in different ways and spend much more time focusing on this young high school kid in the MCU dealing with his powers.”
“There is a young kid [already] running around New York City in a homemade version of the Spider-Man costume in the MCU, you just don’t know it yet,“ he said, laughing.
Feige also commented on the costume:
“Well, yeah, I mean look, I was more involved in the Raimi ones, and think they did a very good job. But that being said, we’ve already designed the costume, which is different than any of the ones that have come before. And yet ours is classic Spidey, as I think you’ll see.”
He also explains that Marvel knew Spidey would be coming home to the Marvel Cinematic Universe back when Marvel announced their Phase III films back in October:
“Spider-Man we knew about when we were doing that announcement in October. It could have gone either way, and Marvel as you well know doesn’t announce announce anything officially until it’s set in stone. So we went forward with that Plan A in October, with the Plan B being, if it were to happen with Sony, how it would all shift,“ Feige told us, adding, “We’ve been thinking about it as long as we’ve been thinking about Phase Three.”
At Crave, you can also read about Feige’s view on the previous Spidey films. Hat-tip to our old pal Michael “Bam Bam” Bailey for alerting us to this one!
While speaking with Collider, Kevin Feige confirms that Peter Parker will be in his high school years for his upcoming second reboot and debut in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
What might this mean for Spidey? No telling yet. With all the speculation on who might play MJ, they may (note I said ‘may’) instead focus on Liz & Betty. What makes me think this? Because Feige says that a lot of his favorite Spider-arcs are from when Peter was in high school. Knowing what a fan he is of the Stan Lee & Steve Ditko Doctor Strange nudges me towards thinking he’s talking about the Stan Lee & Steve Ditko era here as well rather than the messy Ultimate universe.
But then Marvel also decided to go with Scott Lang, a decades dead Janet and a sexagenarian Hank Pym, so what the Hell do I know?
Thanks to PunyParker for the heads-up!
–George Berryman! (Who thinks the sexagenarian line is really funny since it’s Michael Douglas playing Hank!)
Our own Zach Joiner was driving through my neck of the woods on a long business trip and we met up to talk about Spider-Man, Texas and about a billion other things. Spidey-Dude was also kind enough to buy my dinner! It almost makes me want to stop giving him a hard time on the podcast.
For those of you who might be newer to the site, the handsome fella on the left is me. The younger guy holdin’ the iPad is the Dude.
Stan Lee spoke with Comickbook.com to express his happiness that Spider-Man is headed back ‘home’ to Marvel’s movie universe. He praised Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire while also mentioning he’s in two scenes in the upcoming Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Stan’s Spidey comments start around the :50 second mark. Thanks to Spider-Knight87 on our forums for the heads-up!
One of Spidey’s oldest allies has his Netflix series debut today and in addition to showcasing one of Spidey’s oldest enemies, the Kingpin, it’s also got Leland Owlsley – aka the Owl! Old Leland has squared off against both Spider-Man and Doc Ock before, including a small-scale Owl/Octopus war that went down in Spectacular Spider-Man back in the early 80’s. Most recently he showed up in the pages of the fantastic Superior Foes of Spider-Man as a villain to Spidey’s villains. He’s portrayed very differently in the Netflix series but he’s there, as is Daily Bugle reporter Ben Urich – the Philgoblin’s uncle.
So remember to check out Daredevil on Netflix today, and tell Leland that Crawlspace sent ya! Heh!
Our friend Michael Bailey shared this interesting article with me about the X-Men from the Business Insider website. It talks about how Disney is moving focus away from it’s X-Men characters and focusing on the Avengers and Spider-Man. 20th Century Fox has the movie rights to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four and gets most of the profits from those movies.
The article also talks about the way Disney is “hiding” the X-characters.
The X-Men are a bit hidden on Marvel’s website, and store. Senior Vice President of Publishing Tom Breevort was quoted as saying
“If you had two things, and on one you earned 100% of the revenues from the efforts that you put into making it, and the other you earned a much smaller percentage for the same amount of time and effort, you’d be more likely to concentrate more heavily on the first, wouldn’t you?”
What are your thoughts? Was Spider-Man close to being buried if this recent team up with Sony didn’t happen?
Ryan here to talk about something very special. When I achieved my dream of seeing my first book, My Life as a Comic Book Reader to become published last year the dream soon becomes bigger and you want to give more to those who supported and helped me achieved my dream of seeing the book published. My second book, Small Hope was born out of creating My Life as Comic Book Reader seven years ago and in 2013 a group of friends helped to bring the world of S’more to life and now I’m ready to share S’more with the world. Small Hope is a children’s story about finding hope when it feels our world has caved in on us. Where the tiniest creature can bring a type of love that felt lost and about moving on and facing the challenges in life as we grow up. As an owner, rescuer and fosterer of guinea pigs for many years, this story has a special place in my heart.
Ever since Marvel Comics showed the teaser last October for Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows as part of their upcoming Secret Wars event this summer, it appears to have reopened old wounds from J. Michael Straczynski’s infamous and controversial “One More Day.” Optimistic fans who saw the image of Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson together with a daughter believed this was an answer to their prayers: Marvel was finally undoing one of the worst Spider-Man stories EVER! Others hardened by years of being jerked around by Marvel’s constant teases that they might bring Peter and Mary Jane back together were more skeptical, their suspicions intensified the more they learned about Renew Your Vows from its author, Dan Slott, the most recent being his comments at the Magic City Comic Con that the “real” Mary Jane was “lost” once she and Peter married. Others having vowed never to read Spider-Man again just didn’t care. Besides, there were far more important things to worry about like studying for exams, filing tax returns and catching up on The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.
Then there were those who seemed to have developed a sudden case of gametophobia, or at least one limited towards Spider-Man’s marriage, in they wondered why after being told by Marvel over and over why Spider-Man should never have gotten married in the first place they were seemingly bringing it back, let alone saddling him with some snot-nosed brat. After all, wasn’t Spider-Man all about “youth” and marriage and having kids made him “too old?” Isn’t Spider-Man having “soap opera-style romances” as definitive to his character as Daredevil being blind? Wasn’t it a mistake for Peter Parker to get married in the first place, let alone to someone like Mary Jane? Just like everything else about the new Secret Wars, it didn’t make a damn bit of sense.
Yet before the marriage detractors could belt out the chorus of Remy Zero’s “Save Me,” a champion swung to their rescue–IGN comics reviewer Jesse Schedeen. In his latest “Between the Panels” column subtitled “Why Spider-Man Should Stay A Swinging Bachelor,” Schedeen attempted to make the case for why, in spite of what you may have felt about Peter and MJ exchanging their marriage to Mephisto for Aunt May’s life, Spider-Man comics are now better because of it. Needless to say, the article received thousands of responses, many of which were colorful variations of, “You have no idea what the **** you’re talking about.”
When the podcast crew discussed the recent Marvel/Sony Spider-Man deal, we talked about the possibility of what characters might crossover into Spidey’s new movies. From everything we’ve been told, that’s part of the deal – Marvel Cinematic Universe characters also appearing in Spider-Man flicks. When we kicked ideas around Zach even specifically wondered if Kingpin might find his way into a Spidey movie. Apparently Zach wasn’t the only one who is up for seeing that. Actor Vincent D’Onofrio, who is playing the Kingpin in the Netflix Daredevil series, is of the same mind. Here’s what he had to say to IGN:
We asked D’Onofrio if a Spider-Man/Kingpin battle could be in the cards on the big screen, and while he admitted that he has “no idea” at this point, he also said he’d love to do it.
“That would be super-cool, yeah,” said the actor. “To be able to kick Spider-Man’s butt would be awesome.”
Not surprisingly, the secretive Marvel Studios has not revealed any such plans to D’Onofrio yet. Of course, knowing Marvel, anything is possible.
“But we just don’t know about those things,” he continued. “Those are all the Marvel secrets that they never tell us until they need us, so… Yeah, I would do it. I would do it in a second.”
The actor also explains that a talk with Jeph Loeb got him interested in the Kingpin role:
“[It] was just an incredible conversation and during the conversation I realized how much I actually did know of Daredevil’s origin story,” said D’Onofrio. “And I guess I had read a couple of [the comics] as a kid, but I didn’t remember. And [we talked] about the new Fisk. This Fisk that [showrunner] Steven DeKnight was writing and that Jeph wanted to do, which made this Netflix/Marvel series. From that call I think I committed to the project.”
D’Onofrio saw more in the character than just a cartoonish villain.
“You know, they wanted him brought in as a human,” said the actor. “As a real kind of, just a man, who eventually turns into this iconic character. So that’s a fun job. I mean I thought right away, ‘That’s fantastic.’ You can do so many cool things with that.”
The full first season of Daredevil hits Neflix April 10th – this coming Friday.
EDIT: I erroneously said I had mentioned the Kingpin appearing in a Spider-Man movie on the podcast. That was incorrect; it was Zach. I have corrected that above!
Will the vile corporation hating Ghost turn Parker Industries, and its faithful menagerie of misfits into…well…Ghosts? Will Black Cat ever do a thing in character? Will Aunt May ever stop worrying about Peter? All this and more in this instalment of Amazing Spider-Man.
“The Graveyard Shift, Part Two: Trust Issues” “Repossession, Part Two: No Take Backsies”
WRITERS: Dan Slott & Christos Gage PENCILER: Humberto Ramos INKER: Victor Olazaba COLORS: Edgar Delgado LETTERER: Chris Eliopoulos COVER ARTISTS: Humberto Ramos & Edgar Delgado ASSISTANT EDITOR: Devin Lewis EDITOR: Nick LoweRead the rest of this entry »
Just after New Year’s I decided I would write a letter to legendary artist and Spider-Man Co-creator, Steve Ditko. I wrote out the letter in February and mailed it out and today I received a reply. My Original Letter was:
“The Graveyard Shift, Part Two: Trust Issues” “Repossession, Part Two: No Take Backsies”
WRITERS: Dan Slott & Christos Gage PENCILER: Humberto Ramos INKER: Victor Olazaba COLORS: Edgar Delgado LETTERER: Chris Eliopoulos COVER ARTISTS: Humberto Ramos & Edgar Delgado ASSISTANT EDITOR: Devin Lewis EDITOR: Nick Lowe
We all know Stan Lee as a titan of the comic book industry, the co-creator behind such legendary superheroes like The Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, The Invincible Iron Man, The Mighty Thor, The Uncanny X-Men, and, of course, The Amazing Spider-Man. But did you also know that, among his other achievements, Stan Lee is also a real-estate tycoon?
That appears to be the case as he’s now put on the market the mansion he bought for his daughter back in 2012. Located in the historic Bird Streets neighborhood of Hollywood, CA, this 5,000-square-foot, 5 bedroom, 7.5 bath home is being offered for a “mere” $5 million. But wait! For an additional $25,000, you can also purchase along with your new home a life-sized Spider-Man statue personally autographed by Stan “The Man” Lee himself, the proceeds of which will go to charity.
You can find the official listing on Yahoo! Homes. So how ’bout it, true believers? Anyone in the market for buying a house that comes with your very own Spidey?