Spidey Memories#51

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1. Omg. I had not considered this like that before. I’m book-marking this for later so I can read your other posts. I have a number of other websites to look into and found this while searching some stuff for school.

2. @Danish Web: Spider-Man did this to protect his secret identity, but John was not mad of that situation, he was cool, the secret identity protection is a reason other to the fact that people got killed imitating Spider-Man to win the 5,000,000 dollars anonymously donated by Osbourn to Jameson to anyone who reveals who Spider-Man is (Main Reason)

   @Spider-Dad: I didn’t say smartest get fooled all the time, but I witnessed many occasions as such

3. @AbdulAziz. Sorry, not buying the explanation, “smart people” get fooled all the time. It is the “one line of dialogue” method that explains away a situation that JJJ was directly involved between Spider-Man and Man Wolf. If you have read issues #189-190, it clearly shows Spider-Man and Man-Wolf battling for two issues and then John reverts back to normal right in front of JJJ and Spidey. Or the classic Doc Ock nullifier arc (#53-56) where JJJ (and the Army) is furious that John let Spider-Man get away. The simpleton explanation by Peter would not fool JJJ so easily and thus my questioning if Millar had read the stories.

   Although JJJ is depicted as a clown on too often a basis, a true journalist (especially an old school one like Jameson) was raised under the credo: “if you mother says she loves you, check it out.” JJJ would not have bought this so easily, and that is why Peter David correctly fixed it later in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

   @Danish Web, agreed that Peter is portrayed as the douchebag, but I think it was supposed to be a joke. See the irony? It is Peter going to great lengths to protect his secret, even lying…whatever…simply another moment that does insult this long time readers intelligence…

4. Actually, people hate it becayse Peter’s a douchebag in this story expoliting and manipulating the Jamesons, when any fan worth thier salt know he wouldnt do that.

   Chalk one up once again to the Quesada “error” ignoring proper characterisation in order to tell a story.

5. This is a memorable and fun moment
   @ Spider-Dad: It is ironic that people who enjoy Marvel comics especially Spider-Man love it most because it has reality, but when some moments like this that actually occur in real life (yes, there are many who got fooled into thinking what they know is false, at least for a while, even to the smartest of people) happen in comics it is called an insult to readers intelligent. Look at the page again, read panel 3 to see Jonah remembers the shuttle & “Man Wolf”

6. I thought the cabal/Norman Osborn plot along with the idea of using super-villains to preoccupy super-heroes were both interesting and fitting for the Golden/Silver Age villains…I liked aspects of the run, and thought that it was enjoyable to read…i do remember looking forward to each issue coming out…which is not always the case nowadays…and i think it is certainly canonical seeing as how it brought about Venom II and gave a more spider-centric conclusion to The Pulse’s exposure of the Green Goblin…

7. Excatly Danish Web, I can never understand why so many people love Millars MK ‘s issues when it’s full of bad character moments like this, great art yes, some good ideas yes, but honestly I believe them to be very overated

8. I thought Marvel Knights was never intended to be canocial anyway……In which case, BND should have taken place entirely in this series.

   Miller’s “Down Amongst The Dead Men” is full of worse moments, like MJ and Felicia bitching over Peter. Ugh. The two are FRIENDS, they had been since The Clone Saga.

   Thankfully, it’s easier to edit out that stuff and still count it as happening, like how Stan’s dailys count Spider-Man 3 without the dreary Peter/MJ/Harry angst.

9. Bertone, this is one of those plots points that made me wonder if Millar ever read Spider-Man. How many times did John battle Spider-Man??? How could JJJ be fooled so easily??? Dumb then, still dumb now.
   This was a glaring error at the time and hopefully will never be mentioned again…

10. Oh yeah….I forgot about that.