Spidey Memories#50

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1. how odd, i just re-read this comic the “other” day! nothing like cheap villains like Shriek to underscore a Peter Parker babying out moment

2. Something Ironic is: I hate this with passion, but I really love the Spider-Totem & “The Other” stuff

3. I agree, the 90s get too much of a bad rap and ignored the good things that happened. current comics are going by events crossovers with more tie ins than the 90s did. the comics I brought to bring back how good the 90s are were Peter david Hulk with Duen Kwoen and Gary Frank art. Alan Davis Excalibur, Howard Mackie Ghost Rider, JMDs Spider-man(both Spectacular runs and his Amazing issues), Larry Hama Wolverine. I’m missing out on Busiek/Bagely Thunderbolts and Joe Kelly Deadpool. I guess the whole Image Rob Liefeld era and Extreme anit-hero big guns didnt help with 90s.

4. For some reason, no one remembers Peter dying during the Clone Saga as well.

5. I was waiting for Peter to walk in and go: “So, I had some extra webfluid…”

6. MJ comes back a few hours later with her old Romita hairstyle (which doesnt fit her anymore, this is from an artistic perspective), pretty interesting artistic choice for Bagely.

   It’s amusing how people still think this made Peter “unlikeable”, a breakdown of this sort may not happen every day, but everything in the issue is literal commentary on metaphorical feelings of isolation and bitterness. This was the natural culmination of Peter being hit by tragedy. MJ, always looking to Peter as a role model, also went into isolation and rid herself of personal demons just as Peter did, before the two found went back to each other. Brilliant example of adding deapth and drama to the marraige without having the characters in angsty, depressing conversations.

   …just anothee reason why it’s not worth listening to anyone who thinks The 1990s were bad…it really wasnt, and they never read the issues these take events took place in, they just bitch and moan about things out-of-context

   This was Spidey at his creative best and sooner or later it will be appreciated for the genius that it was. I laugh at anyone who rates JMS’s era over this…as it’s essentially the EXACT-SAME-THING…and ten times INFERIOR.

7. ah the creation of the spiderman I refere to as “Craaaazy Pete”

8. oh really, my bad I have to listen to it again. thanks scooter.

9. This wasn’t editorially mandated! If you go back and listen to the podcast with Defalco & Mackie, it’s clear that at this point in the story nothing was editorially mandated. It wasn’t until the books started selling really well that the sales department got involved. This scene took place WAY before that. I think this was a story that JMD really wanted to tell. It is, after all, very dark and psychological. Besides that, it was the ONLY arc that he did for ASM that wasn’t part one of a story that another writer had to write the finish for in a crossover.

10. alot of things were editorial mandiated in the 90s. Howard Mackie’s Ghost Rider was awesome and he did his best during the whole midnight sons crossovers after crossovers which led to seige of darkness which was a big mess. Scott Lobell and Fabien Nicenez mutant books same thing with the crossover were heavly mandiated especially snice the X-men were in the height of their popularity thanks to the Fox kids cartoon. Larry Hama Wolverine run was excellent but not without its flaws, he didnt want to do the feral wolverine with no nose but kept at it and eventually quited. I’m not sure who’s to blame because Larry Hama and Scott lobell all defended Bob harrass who did his best against the higher ups that wanted to change the marvel character more than it already been done.

11. funny how marvel suceeded in making peter unlikiable to me when they try to make him relateable in the current BND. J. M. DeMatteis did try his best in this story arc. I have to admit, I love Bagley’s visuals especially the creepy holocaust dream in the first issue of the shrieking in Amazing 390 with the naked bodies falling. I like his take on Shriek and Carrion’s story. I did love the Peter and Mary Jane scene when she telling Peter to get over it and ended with a makeout session implying love making which makes the scene beautiful. The story did have good things and bad things. This was all editorially mandiated so you can’t blame J. M. DeMatteis. He did his best with what he had.

12. This was all a setup to usher in the new Ben era. They were trying to make Peter as unlikable as possible, so that we’d be happier with Ben in the webs.

    It worked for me!

13. Six-armed Spidey (around #101) beats mushy-cocoon Spidey.

14. “Best left forgotten?” This is one of my favorite Spider-man scenes of all time!

15. LOL

    Thats the stupidest thing I’ve all week.

16. Interesting find.

    That always makes for a creepy visual.

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