Spidey Memories#73

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1. LOL, you’ve gota adore Charlie Sheen, he’s mad as cheese

2. StayStation: Yeah that’s what I was thinking of. I wasn’t sure if it was from Life of Reilly.

   SpiderPlumber: Peter wasn’t just hitting Ben, he was trying to strangle him with a metal pipe (you can see him in the lower half.) At this stage MJ likes Ben and well killing him would also push Peter further along a dark path that started when he found out about his fake parents.

3. Erin’s right. Glenn Greenberg said the following in the ninth part of the “Life of Reilly” blog:

   “Now, on to the matter of Peter ‘hitting’ Mary Jane. We got some heat over this, and some bad publicity. But come on, it’s not like Peter Parker was suddenly being presented as a wife-beater! Consider the circumstances. Peter was in a rage, his whole world had been turned upside down, and he was in the middle of a brutal fight with the man he believed had just robbed him of his life. Mary Jane was warned by Seward Trainer not to go near them, that Peter and Ben were both out of control, but she ignored Seward and tried to get in the middle of them and stop the fight. She is clearly shown grabbing Peter’s arm, and in the next panel, Peter is shown flinging that arm outward, to shove her away from him so that he can continue the fight. That’s how I always interpreted the scene. Peter was so angry, so on the edge, that he wasn’t fully aware of what he was doing. Had he been the slightest bit rational at that moment, he surely would have taken into account the fact that he had super-strength, and that he couldn’t just shove a normal human being away like that. And I know that’s how Tom DeFalco intended the scene to be interpreted. Looking at the issue now, though, I’ll grant that maybe some of these subtleties did not come through in the art as clearly as they should have. And that provided enough fodder for anyone who was really looking to make a big stink about the scene.”

4. But… wouldn’t a punch that hard kill MJ? Or at least endanger the baby? How did MJ get up from this? This makes no sense!

5. Maybe if she just minded her damned business……

6. I remember one of the writers from the Clone Saga ( Defalco maybe?) saying that Peter didn’t hit her so much as shake her off his arm without realizing his strength. He said the evidence of this was in a panel or so before when she’s holding his arm. But having him make a fist sort of messes with idea.

   As for what lead up to this: Peter and Ben were running tests to see which was the clone. Trainer messed with the equipment so it would say Ben was the real deal. Peter loses it and starts trashing Ben to the point he’s close to killing him. Mary Jane tries to get Peter to stop when this happens.

7. Yeah it’s gonna to be a long episode. I’m wondering if it should be split into two parts considering it’s importance.

8. @Spider-Dad: It was Spectacular Spider-Man #226. We’re reviewing it on Clone Saga Chronicles Episode 13, which hasn’t recorded yet … I expect a spirited debate. 😀

9. Moments like this really make me miss the Spider-marriage. 😉

10. dont worry, thats really Kaine the bitchy clone, he must be a south pole elf

11. If I recall correctly, doesn’t Peter realize it was MJ and run away?
    Before I have to go scouting around, since I am already going to be looking up PPSSM#38, does anyone remember this issue #?

12. Well said MadGoblin, astonishingly enough they were trying to get us to stop rooting for the character we had supported for years and years. At least they didn’t turn him into a homicidal maniac like DC did with Hal Jordan.

13. Because Marvel was deliberately trying to make the Peter Parker character look as bad, depressing, and unstable as possible so that we would all embrace Ben Reilly as the real Spider-Man. Basically, it was a smear campaign.

14. Can anyone tell me why Peter smacks Mary Jane like he is some common trash in this panel?

15. SPWAT!

16. I remember that scene. My jaw dropped when I saw this. And if Warren were there to see this, he’d be laughing his sick ass off.

17. I vividly recall the outrage in the early online community. Easily the most ill advised story decision in the history of the character to that point.

18. Looking forward to tearing this one up on CSC.

19. When we discuss that for CSC I might play “Hit Me Baby One More Time”.

20. i’m rather fond of the clone saga but the art from the issue that this panel is from is awful! and it’s style pops up radomly throughout the stories, yuck

21. Peter looks like a really angry Charlie Sheen here! “Men men men men, manly men, oo hoo hoo, hoo hoo, oo….”

22. Dayum Spidey just smacked a ho!

23. and there it is…gotta be the most notorious panel in spider-history…makes Norman smacking Aunt May seem like he was giving her a high five…

    @izzy, agreed! waaayy better…

24. Oh HELL No!

25. I stopped picking up Spider-Man for long because of this scene.

26. It gets worse….she’s pregnant.

27. Wow…so, apparently the hit in Spider-Man 3 was not without precedence! Oh, dear!

28. Yeah maybe this should be a Spider-Caption instead. I’m surprised Brad didn’t post “DAMN SPIDER-MAN SMACKED A BITCH”.

29. I like it better when it’s Tobey Maguire backhanding Kirsten Dunst…

30. LOL, perfect caption on that one. Damn.

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